Waggoners Trucking

[ATCO]

This is a post hoping all the Waggoners drivers I've been telling about this site will make a post introducing themselves...

Our company has been shipping with Waggoners for sometime, usually out of the Houston Tx area to here in Bakersfield...

These guys have always seemed to be friendly and very profesional...
I trully hope some of these guys will join the forums soon, they are more than welcome here. Consider this MY welcome... :cheers:

For the others, whats your thoughts on this company, or others like it...

Is this a West coast company?..I have not heard of them, but bring in the crew...We'll make them feel welcome as always... :cheers: :cheers:

[ATCO]

http://www.waggonerstrucking.com/

yeah, mostly west coast...

[USAF_2T2]

They have a terminal and big set up in Columbia, SC. They haul direct out of the BMW plant there and off the rail yard. It is east of the Pilot at exit #1 in Columbia, SC. Down the road from the TMC training facility.

[DrivingZiggy]

And here I was thinking they were car haulers. :wacko: :wow:

[USAF_2T2]

Did my statement...


They haul direct out of the BMW plant there and off the rail yard.

throw you off. it was just a hint that they haul cars. :p

[Pipester]

Wayne Waggoner started the company many years ago and expanded into Canada in the late 70's by buying out Popelka Trucking out of Calgary and have been running Canada/USA for all those years.

It's a well run operation and I have known some lease ops to be pulling for them for over 20 years now.

[Foxfire]

It IS a car hauler outfit!!!LOL But they are welcome to the site.

[DrivingZiggy]

Did my statement...

Quote:
They haul direct out of the BMW plant there and off the rail yard.


throw you off. it was just a hint that they haul cars. No, I caught that. What threw me off was that this is in the flatbed area instead of the car haulers' area--which incidentally still has 0 posts... :yikes:

[Pipester]

Wagoneers haul a lot more than cars.

[Preacher]

I grew-up in the car business around St. Louis and the Waggoners have been around forever hauling cars. They have a small terminal here in Tulsa and I have noticed alot of flatbeds in the yard.

[DrivingZiggy]

Alrighty then. I stand educated.

[ATCO]

With our business, we get a lot of industrial supplies - ie. Valves... We don't do anything automotive...

So the side of the operation I know of is the "Flatbed" side, and are the people I have been fowarding to this site...

Waggoners uses their flatbeds as a kind of LTL if you will... "No load is too small for Waggoners"... Their flatbeds, from what I've been seeing are usually Alum. drop deck 48's. A lot of times when they roll into our place they have the full side kit on, and are the typical "open top wagon"... I have seen quite a few tri-axels, as explained to me, so that they can go into Canada with heavier loads. Also I learned from their drivers that Canada doesn't allow our typical spread axles in... So when I've seen tandem trailers, that are in their spread position I look and find them to have seperate axle sliders which allow them to be reconfigured to go into Canada. Alot of the tractors are in the "Company" gold, but there are a few O/O's leased on with some nice rides (a lot of KW's like W900's and Pete's and Western Stars)...


btw, thier bill of lading shows them to be out of Billings Montana...

[Pipester]

Atco,

When you get to the border with your 10'1" spread and shorten it...you are allowed 37,400 on tandem in Canada.

or 86,900 for 5 axles.

[ATCO]

Is there such a thing as a "Canadian Spread", I mean I figure it's alot shorter than here in the US, but what is it? Also if I might get into theories, why is it the US based Spreads aren't liked in Canada... I mean you guys get to run A trains, and have yet to understand why we don't down here in the US, it would seem safer and more stable...

[Jimbo]

I drove a tractor once that had what was called a "Canadian Spread". You could stand between the two sets of tires on the tractor's tandems. The reguler tandems are barely far enough to get your leg between the tires at the closest point, but this trucks tandems were far enough apart that i could stand facing toward the frame, in between the tires, and had an inch or two to spare. I think in Canada they let you carry more weight on the tractor when it's set up that way.

[Pipester]

Same weight....just rides better and makes it a lot easier to chain up.

[Pipester]

long spread causes scuffing.


Nowaday the most popular spread is 60 inches. Most drives are 54 but off road equipment is usually spced at 60. Tridems are anywhere from 48 to 54 to 60. The odd one has 72 inch spreads and on a tridem that's a lot of drag.

I recall when they used to allow us an extra 1000 KGS. (2200) pounds on a tridem if you had at least a 60 inch spread between axles.

[CD]

Waggoners does indeed do flatbed work. They are always keeping "my" stretch of hiway(US287) pretty hot runnin between Houston and Alberta with their "oilfield LTL" freight that they tend to guard pretty furiously. I had a Waggoners company guy tell me that they mostly run the side kits so that the competition cannot see what and who they are hauling for??!! :secret:

[Pipester]

The only reason for side kits is to protect from weather. Lot's of stuff in cardboard boxes or too simply keep goods clean.

[I_LUV_A_MAN_WITH_18WHEELS]

My husband has been driving for Waggoners for almost a year and his home terminal is out of Canton, MS. They mainly haul new Nissans out of Canton going to Fla, Ga.. He loads alot of times out of Brunswick, Ga. or Smirna, Tn. coming back towards MS. He enjoys working for them & has already got a brand new truck to drive. I think the only bad thing I could say about them is that their insurance sucks pretty bad. But anyways...be safe everyone and we'll catch ya on the flip. :lover:

[DrivingZiggy]

Joe, did you join OOIDA yet?

[Bikerboy]

Is there such a thing as a "Canadian Spread", I mean I figure it's alot shorter than here in the US, but what is it? Also if I might get into theories, why is it the US based Spreads aren't liked in Canada... I mean you guys get to run A trains, and have yet to understand why we don't down here in the US, it would seem safer and more stable...

Ok the US tandem spread axles are legal in Ontario and quebec, maybe more of the east coast too. Not legal west of manitoba. They all use a tridem spread out there.

In ontario we run 10 foot 1 inch tandem spreads, normal tandems, tridems, tri-axles, tridems with anywhere from 1-4 lift axles. tandems with 1-5 lift axles. The most axles i have seen on a trailer is 7or 8.

B trains,(2-3 axles on lead, 2-3 axles on pup) Super B trains, (3-4 axles on lead , 2 or 3 axles on pup) The second fifth wheel is mounted on the back of the lead trailer.

A trains, same as in the USA.

[ATCO]

Joe, did you join OOIDA yet?

Nah, will shortly... thinking about signing on as a company driver, not sure how OOIDA would benifit me there, but alas, I believe they could if I had problems... I unno... It's ulimatly an investment in the future...


Bikerboy... Thanks, in my original post, I meant "B Trains"... and my understanding about "A Trains" are that they are simular to typical dollys with the exception that the lead trailer must have two offset pintle hooks and the dolley must have two tongues, thus creating a steering dolly with a special tracking pattern... Still don't know enough about them...

[Bikerboy]

Maybe you are talking about a A trains with lockable dolly. Backs up the same as a B train, but you can only lock it when backing in a straight line.
Or else you will break stuff.
There is also something call a C train, but i'm not too sure what that is.

[ATCO]

Once again, I got messed up... :wacko:
A-Trains are also known as "Western Doubles"

What I discribed above is a "C-Train"
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/martin_phippard/multi_trailers/file0006_sml.jpg

A wonderful source for information about A, B and C Train configurations...
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/martin_phippard_trailers.html

[Pipester]

Bikerboy


10' 1" is allowed in Alberta providing it came across the border from a jurisdiction where it's legal. You can also load it maxed out leaving the province but you can't use it to haul within the province.

[joerockhead]

10'1" spacing is also legal in Manitoba....providing the combined weight of BOTH trailer axles does NOT exceed 10,000 kg's (22,000 lbs). Annual, trip and fleet permits are no longer required either.

Manitoba is so progressive! :D

[DrivingZiggy]

Joe, OOIDA is out there looking out for the professional driver. In fact, there's a class action lawsuit against Swift at the moment for shorting the pay of the drivers by paying HHG miles. See?

[ATCO]

Sounds good Ziggy...

How have you been lately? Been running good I hope... How'd you make out of the Elko situation?

[DrivingZiggy]

Except for getting arrested in New York (see the LEO forum), I've been running good since getting the truck back. Seems like it has better power and is getting better mileage. And the freight has been good.

[Company5]

Hey, bringing it back to the original subject, doesn't Waggoners have a terminal in Columbus GA? If they do, what in the world do they haul out of there?

[CD]

Ummmmmm I could be wrong but I believe that "The Waggoners" yard in Columbus, Ga. is primarily an auto-haul terminal.

Columbus is also the home of Ft. Benning which has a major amount of temp duty military peeps doing survival training and jump school and uncle sugar pays for their cars to be shipped in and out.

I used to haul milk thru there every week and remember that yard being nothing but auto-haul rigs

[Company5]

I was in Columbus a few weeks ago doing a peddle route and saw their "new" terminal off 10th St. They had a yard off Victory drive I believe (the sign is still up), but the new one is in an old mill or wharehouse complex. I stopped by to ask about their operation, pay, etc. Was told that that will be a training and fabrication facility. As for any driver info, the woman there couldn't really produce any substantial literature or any exact, or close to it pay figures. She said their drivers usually get home after 7-10 days, depending on where they live and business demands. She said they had more work than they could handle. I guess with the new auto plants in the south and such, and Allied falling on hard times, these other non standard carriers are flourishing. I could be wrong? Just an observation.