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Capt._Chaos
10-15-2006, 07:33 AM
Is it legal to carry those small propane bottles in the cabs of our trucks?

Many of us like to cook our own food on the road & wonder if it's legal to carry those propane bottles in the cab, or would we legally be better off going to charcoal grilles & carrying a bag of charcoal & lighter fluid?

Thanks in advance! :)

towstrap
10-15-2006, 08:00 AM
Capt. I can not answer to a legal extent but I can tell you the group who hosts' breakfast in the parking lot as has been heard talked about on trucking radio shows ALL carry propane.

Most if not all claim to be law abiding OOIDA members so I doubt they'd be hauling around personal use amounts of propane if it were illegal.

Rev.Vassago
10-15-2006, 09:43 AM
Yes, it is legal to carry propane to fuel auxiliary equipment on your truck.


§392.51 Reserve fuel; Materials of trade.

Small amounts of fuel for the operation or maintenance of a commercial motor vehicle (including its auxiliary equipment) may be designated as materials of trade (see 49 CFR 171.8).

(a) The aggregate gross weight of all materials of trade on a motor vehicle may not exceed 200 kg (440 pounds).

(b) Packaging for gasoline must be made of metal or plastic and conform to requirements of 49 CFR Parts 171, 172, 173, and 178 or requirements of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration contained in 29 CFR 1910.106.

(c) For Packing Group II (including gasoline), Packing Group III (including aviation fuel and fuel oil), or ORM-D, the material is limited to 30 kg (66 pounds) or 30 L (8 gallons).

(d) For diesel fuel, the capacity of the package is limited to 450 L (119 gallons).

(e) A Division 2.1 material in a cylinder is limited to a gross weight of 100 kg (220 pounds). (A Division 2.1 material is a flammable gas, including liquefied petroleum gas, butane, propane, liquefied natural gas, and methane).

dominopizzadrvr
10-27-2006, 03:10 PM
It is not enough to be a Regulated Quantity,now if you have 40ft. propane tank behind you that is a whole different story. Happy cooking,i will expect a steak next time you make it to the Southeast

Mike_M
10-30-2006, 09:13 AM
dominopizzadrvr


It is not enough to be a Regulated Quantity,now if you have 40ft. propane tank behind you that is a whole different story. Happy cooking,i will expect a steak next time you make it to the Southeast

Rev is on the mark, the HMR defines MOTS:


§ 173.6 Materials of trade exceptions.

When transported by motor vehicle in conformance with this section, a material of trade (see §171.8 of this subchapter) is not subject to any other requirements of this subchapter besides those set forth or referenced in this section.

(2) A Division 2.1 or 2.2 material in a cylinder with a gross weight not over 100 kg (220 pounds), or a permanently mounted tank manufactured to the ASME Code of not more than 70 gallon water capacity for a non-liquefied Division 2.2 material with no subsidiary hazard.

(b) Packaging. (1) Packagings must be leak tight for liquids and gases, sift proof for solids, and be securely closed, secured against shifting, and protected against damage.

(2) Each material must be packaged in the manufacturer's original packaging, or a packaging of equal or greater strength and integrity.

(3) Outer packagings are not required for receptacles (e.g., cans and bottles) that are secured against shifting in cages, carts, bins, boxes or compartments.

(5) A cylinder or other pressure vessel containing a Division 2.1 or 2.2 material must conform to packaging, qualification, maintenance, and use requirements of this subchapter, except that outer packagings are not required. Manifolding of cylinders is authorized provided all valves are tightly closed.

(c) Hazard communication. (1) A non-bulk packaging other than a cylinder (including a receptacle transported without an outer packaging) must be marked with a common name or proper shipping name to identify the material it contains, including the letters “RQ” if it contains a reportable quantity of a hazardous substance.

(3) A DOT specification cylinder (except DOT specification 39) must be marked and labeled as prescribed in this subchapter. Each DOT-39 cylinder must display the markings specified in 178.65(i).

(4) The operator of a motor vehicle that contains a material of trade must be informed of the presence of the hazardous material (including whether the package contains a reportable quantity) and must be informed of the requirements of this section.

(d) Aggregate gross weight. Except for a material of trade authorized by paragraph (a)(1)(iii) of this section, the aggregate gross weight of all materials of trade on a motor vehicle may not exceed 200 kg (440 pounds).

(e) Other exceptions. A material of trade may be transported on a motor vehicle under the provisions of this section with other hazardous materials without affecting its eligibility for exceptions provided by this section.

Propane is a Division 2.1 material (flammable gas), the cylinder is considered properly marked and labled if it has a Compressed Gas Association (CGA) tag near the neck with the proper shipping name and Division 2.1 lable.

Any time there is HM on a CMV it is regulated. As long as all of the requirements of the FMCSR and HMR are met there is no problem. If the cylinder is not marked as required and/or not properly secured there may be safety violations. Unsecured HM is an OOS violation.

Be safe.