View Full Version : For you flatbedders that carry cameras
Big_Dave
June 16th, 2005, 04:17
Post some pics of how to tie down the stuff you haul.
The purpose of this request is not to 'pick apart' how you tie stuff down, but to educate those thinking of getting into flatbedding, stepdecking or dragging a lowboy.
Cheryl
June 22nd, 2005, 23:43
I'm not a driver, but the wife that rides along now and again with a camera. ;)
I took this 2 weeks ago. It's a load of crushed marble, used in making ceiling tiles. 2 straps over the first and last bags and one strap over each one in between.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/postwhr/Loads/crushedmarble.jpg
Admin
June 23rd, 2005, 19:10
ANGEL WE NEED THIS GREAT PIC ON THE FRONTPAGE :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/hoohaa1/IMG_0011.jpg
These are called anchors..they set them in concrete, then bolt, stuff like sell towers and such to it..I have 2 chains going across each one, plus one strap in the middle for good measure..
I would have felt better if the thing was chocked a little better, but it didnt move an inch.
ATCO
June 29th, 2005, 18:38
hellbound,
where's your flaps for your tractor?
Very interesting load... thanks...
Foxfire
June 29th, 2005, 18:49
Notice that the straps do NOT go over the top of this particular load. Again, a good dose of common sense helped a lot. Right HBT?
hellbound,
where's your flaps for your tractor?
Very interesting load... thanks...
I left them at a jobsite a month ago..They were dirty, and I' was to lazy to clean them.. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Pipester
June 29th, 2005, 23:51
Flaps are not mandatory when you're hooked up to your wagon.
Foxfire
June 30th, 2005, 00:23
That's a nice lookin trailer there HBT. Only thing I would have done different is put that headache rack on the tractor not the trailer. But, we all do the same thing different. ( That's one of my fav. sayings.)
copperbottom
July 14th, 2005, 14:20
All flatbed loads need 2 straps/chains over the top in the first 10 feet of the load according to the new regs from the FMC handguide......the state of AZ requires it both front and back..........cb
Cheryl
July 22nd, 2005, 00:45
ANGEL WE NEED THIS GREAT PIC ON THE FRONTPAGE :D
It was the work boots with the shorts that got ya, wasn't it? :D
Admin
July 22nd, 2005, 00:51
I NEED A THIRD ONE AND IT WILL BE ON THE FRONTPAGE.
THAT IS A GOOD WORK FROM OUR MEMBERS, NEWBIES CAN LEARN RIGHT HERE.
THANK YOU HARRY :)
This is a good Idea, however someone might see a load improperly tied down and think its a correct way...
As Copperbottom said.... You are now required 2 straps within the first 10' and 1 additional strap per 10' there after.
10' (2 straps)
15' (3 straps)
23' (4 straps) so on...
Also it has to be within the "WILL" working limits too ;)
Big_Dave
July 23rd, 2005, 14:06
This is a good Idea, however someone might see a load improperly tied down and think its a correct way...
You got a point, but I think there's enough member participation here to point out the proper way of tying something down.
Besides, with some of the stuff I see going down the road on flatbeds, step decks and lowboys, I sometimes wonder 'just how in the hell did they know how to tie THAT thing down'.
I realize that common sense isn't common anymore and anything that 'we' can do to help others do it correctly is a definate plus for the industry. :)
Cheryl
July 31st, 2005, 21:46
Industrial Fan
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/postwhr/Loads/mis018.jpg
Foxfire
August 1st, 2005, 00:28
Securing something to a flatbed or stepdeck is mostly common sense Dave. You have the total weight on your bills and you know the rating of the straps and chains so you act accordingly. We all know that if something will possibly move on the trailer we take steps to tie it so it won't move.
We also know that if we are hauling something that has many pieces ( like some plywood pieces I hauled one time in bundles on pallets) you need to tarp that so the pieces don't work out of the straps.
We flatbedders also know that you have to have some kind of securement every 10 ft. or in the case of some states 8 ft. In Indiana they require 2 straps to every 10 ft.
Hope this helps you understand just a bit more Dave. :D
nitestar
August 3rd, 2005, 03:13
Some times one has to move the piece to get legal. When sliding the tandems is not an option.
This is for a single pc.
Know the wgt of the pc. Say it is 10,000 lbs.
You need to move 2,000 lbs
Measure the length of the pc. say it is 10 feet long.
You have 1,000 lbs per foot of material on the trailer.
Meaning you have to move it 2 feet.
Works on more than one pc, but it is a bit more challenging.
Hope this helps someone.
I basically figure the center of the load 1'-2' back from center of trailer with a spread axle.
Truckaxe
August 27th, 2005, 00:27
Here is the link to the Drivers Handbook on Cargo Securement from the FMCSA it is pretty good with good pictures and info http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safety-security/safety-initiatives/cargo/cs-manual-intro.htm
Cheryl
September 27th, 2005, 12:07
A load of pavers we picked up last week.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/postwhr/Sept%2005%20Trip/PaversfromWasauTile.jpg
Curlyfrompgh
October 18th, 2005, 22:04
Dis is great but I got a ? :wow: How do post pics?
Cheryl
October 21st, 2005, 08:53
I use Photobucket to host my pictures, then link them here.
http://www.photobucket.com/
Cheryl
November 12th, 2005, 10:49
Log loaders
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/postwhr/Loads/truck004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/postwhr/Loads/truck002.jpg
Cheryl
January 8th, 2006, 21:12
Cement mixers
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/postwhr/Loads/new040.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/postwhr/Loads/new038.jpg
Big_Dave
January 8th, 2006, 22:46
Cheryl, did ya pick up them mixers in Dodge Center MN?
Looks like the McNeilus Truck Manufacturing logo on the side of them.
Cheryl
January 8th, 2006, 23:02
Yup, they are from McNeilus Truck in Dodge Center. I snapped the pic while he was home over the weekend....I haven't been able to go with him for the last few months.
GreenEyedAngel
January 11th, 2006, 13:59
Just had to add these wort tanks although they're not one of Sweetie's lumber loads.......they'll be moving all 40 of them over the next month or so from the Fredericksburg, VA area to Coors in Elkton, VA -- I figure it will be a site to be seen as they take US 33 over the mountains! :yikes:
Read the entire article:
http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2006/012006/01092006/158425
http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2006/012006/01092006/158425/lotanks0109b.jpg
http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2006/012006/01092006/158425/lotanks0109a.jpg
Big_Dave
January 11th, 2006, 18:45
Wow! That'd be interesting to watch them move the tanks.
Cool story! Thanks for posting it. :cool:
joerockhead
January 11th, 2006, 19:04
In the wee hours one day next month, a giant 13-axle trailer
weigh 78,000 pounds each.
13 AXLES to haul 78,000 pounds...just a bit of OVERKILL don't you think!
Big_Dave
January 11th, 2006, 19:06
Well, it is VA and you know how some states can get. :wow: :rofl:
tommy
January 12th, 2006, 15:16
Well, it is VA and you know how some states can get. :wow: :rofl:
why I run 53 mph in Ohio... :rofl:
Cheryl
February 6th, 2006, 10:07
Hydraulic Log Loader
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/postwhr/Loads/new182.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/postwhr/Loads/new187.jpg
Curlyfrompgh
March 18th, 2006, 11:40
Please any pics I post are going into a training package that I intend to sell so do not use them elsewhere as I wish to retain the rights to them. I have been hesitant to post them until now but have been encouraged to do so... I hope I don't regret this.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a345/Curlyfrompgh/Tallskinnycoils-suicide-Vandy-Exton.jpg
Cheryl
March 19th, 2006, 00:18
Curly.....FYI....I'd suggest that you put your name on each picture then. Once you post them in an open forum like this, without anything on the pic itself, they are fair game to anyone.
LadyBones
April 9th, 2006, 20:27
Here is some seamless tube that Mr. Bones hauls, This stuff is real Oily!!!
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/8673/99260r11413a2ep.jpg
Cheryl
July 18th, 2006, 11:38
Electric Line Coils
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/postwhr/Loads/IM000220.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/postwhr/Loads/IM000223.jpg
Cheryl
July 18th, 2006, 11:41
Infamous spaghetti load....All different sizes of metal pipe jammed onto a flatbed. The pictures really don't do it justice, as you can't see what the middle of the load looks like.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/postwhr/Loads/IM000211.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/postwhr/Loads/IM000213.jpg
Pipeman
September 24th, 2006, 23:04
Well, it is VA and you know how some states can get. :wow: :rofl:
The company has told state officials that its special trailer, designed to carry 360 tons, can make the trip from King George to Elkton in about a day.
What they're using is what you would call 13 lines of deck. These trailer are made to keep themselves level in all conditions and can also negotiate tight turns because ALL the wheels are capable of turning.
Same set-uo that Premay is using here to move a load that's 1,800,000 lbs.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/Pipeman/enlarged_move.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/Pipeman/Premay.jpg
The front and rear lines have a total of 352 wheels. On hills they use 3 Tri Drives at the front and 4 on the back.
Square Wheels
December 17th, 2006, 06:38
Some times one has to move the piece to get legal. When sliding the tandems is not an option.
This is for a single pc.
Know the wgt of the pc. Say it is 10,000 lbs.
You need to move 2,000 lbs
Measure the length of the pc. say it is 10 feet long.
You have 1,000 lbs per foot of material on the trailer.
Meaning you have to move it 2 feet.
Works on more than one pc, but it is a bit more challenging.
Hope this helps someone.........A little tip on an air ride spread. If you need to move a little weight,( without a crane,or tow truck), disconnect the leveling valve rod, and either add more air, or release air from the air suspension. Depending on where you want to move the weight. You can also move weight off the drives this way, even if your truck has a fixed 5th wheel. (This puts the weight on the steer axel), The more air you add ,the more weight you put on the suspension. Some times both are necessary. It beats hanging around a scale house.
beastr123
April 2nd, 2007, 19:36
http://s172.photobucket.com/albums/w6/beastr123/
45000# load of heavy plate steel 288"x72"x1.25"
front dogeared to stop forward movement with 2 3/8 g7 chains
3 3/8 g7 chains. 5 4" straps
underslung binders for undertarp tightening
beastr123
April 2nd, 2007, 20:23
I basically figure the center of the load 1'-2' back from center of trailer with a spread axle.
a hint for you on load placement:
axle weigh truck
calculate max load
calculate rear axle
calculate rear axle percent of total load
measure distance from fifth wheel pin to center of rear axle set
divide this distance by ra axle percent
mark trailer at this distance from pin
this is the center of any load on this unit.
example:
80000 max wgt
32500 mt wgt
47500 max load wgt
34000 max rear axle wgt
6975 rear axle wgt
27025 rear load wgt
27025 divided by 47500 = .5689
rear load 57%
498" trailer wheelbase
498 x .57 = 283.86
284" from pin to load center
--+-----214"--------- ^-------284"--------+------
--+-------------------------------------------+-----
O O
this takes a few minutes now but saves hours of reload time later
manager
October 27th, 2007, 05:15
this is one of woodies loads
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o82/woodie_bucket/October/DCP_4757.jpg
manager
October 27th, 2007, 05:29
way back when I used to pull a flat, it was all rope and sheet (buliding materials), no straps .............. no camera either
great fun it was, .......... ah, those were the days............
Cheryl
August 23rd, 2008, 00:47
It's been awhile since I've posted any..
Fire Suppression System....
Cheryl
August 23rd, 2008, 00:50
Borax..would be 2 straps over each bag
Cheryl
August 23rd, 2008, 00:54
Not our load, but pretty cool...
Cheryl
August 23rd, 2008, 01:03
3 Wheel Log Skidder (at least I think that is what they called it)
Big_Dave
August 23rd, 2008, 02:05
It's been awhile since I've posted any..
Yep! Way too long!
I for one, look forward to your posts of stuff your hubby manages to strap down on a skateboard.
To an old dirt hauler / dry van dragger, it amazes me how some of that stuff actually stays on a flatbed. :wow:
Even though heavy equipment on a lowboy is a cakewalk for me. :D
Keep the pics coming! :cool:
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