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Harry
03-17-2005, 06:58 PM
If you want to see a grown man cry, just tell any over-the-road driver that he has to go to New York City. And not because of the terrorist attacks. For as long as I can remember, drivers always hated to go to New York City (and Chicago too). Except the ones that live there. They love it! But for those who dont live there, it conjures up images of trucks stuck under low overpasses, traffic jams and streets that are so narrow, you can never find enough room to turn off of them. Many drivers simply refuse to go. Companies have gotten used to that fact and some actually pay a little extra for it. PTL is one company that pays a "New York City" bonus. Some companies wont even go there at all.
For every driver that refuses to go, there is a nightmarish story and a good reason behind it. Truck drivers are reasonable people. So when one of them refuses to go, I am sure that they have a good reason. They usually get stuck in a situation that leaves them swearing to God that they will never go back there again. The patient ones have to go there again and get stuck two or three times before they start refusing to go. But unless you just love big cities, it's only a matter of time before you too will say "I simply wont go there".


I remember my first time. I saw a low overpass ahead and I knew that I wouldn't clear it. My only choice was a side street that crossed the road I was on. I didn't know whether I should turn right or left or back-up to the last busy street I passed. Neither choice looked good. I saw a cop in my mirror, so I put the parking brake on and ran back to ask for his help. In a strong New York accent he said "oh boy are you in trouble here. Ok, follow me." He made a left turn onto a side street and within the first block, there was a car double parked and I couldn't get around it. He ran the cars license plate on his computer and discovered that the owner lived right there. He knocked on the door and when it opened, he said "move your car, stupid". One block later, there was another double parked car and he did the same thing again. After that car moved, we continued toward another side street and the officer took a left turn. He knew that I couldn't make the turn, so he stopped his car and walked up to me to ask "which one of these cars do you need moved?" I answered "this one and that one". He tapped on his computer a few more times and then he and his partner each had a door to knock on. Ten minutes later, they came out of huge apartment buildings with the owners who finally moved their cars. Even with those cars gone, I still had to drive on the sidewalk to make the turn. Then there was another double parked car, then another. And then another tight turn. It took me over an hour to get back onto a busy street where I could finally move.


Being the city dweller that I am, I didn't get discouraged. The next time I got a load going to New York City, I gladly took it. On the way there, I read an article in a trucking magazine that told a story about how truckers get robbed by people who act like they are giving you directions. They wait by off ramps. When you stop at the foot of the ramp, they politely ask you if you know where you are going. When you say "no, I need some help". They ask if they can get in. They'll say " it's very difficult to explain and I am going that way anyway, so just let me in and I will show you. Then you can drop me off one block before your turn." Of course when they get inside, they direct you toward a dark street and then they pull their gun out.


I was getting close to my destination when I tried to get directions on the C.B. radio. One driver told me approximately where it was, but he wasn't exactly sure. He just knew it was "down that way". It was late at night, so he added "I wouldn't go there now if I was you. You should wait until morning, that is a bad neighborhood." I couldn't find a truck stop to sleep at and I started getting nervous when I came upon my exit. As soon as I stopped at the foot of the ramp, a man standing there asked me if I knew where I was going. I said I had an idea, but I told him the name of the company anyway, just to see if his directions would be similar to the directions that the driver on the C.B. had given me. He said " it's kind of hard to explain, but I am going that way anyway, so why dont I just ride with you and I will show you where it is and you can drop me off right by there! I said "no", but he ran around my truck to the passenger door, which was locked. I took off and saw him yelling for me to stop. It's a good thing that I read that article when I did. I am sure I wouldn't have let him in anyway, but it still scared the crap out of me!


I received an email from a driver who told the following story as his "New York Nightmare". He said that he had to back into an alley, all the way to the end, which was a long city block in, to get to the dock that he needed. There was only one way into the alley, it was a dead-end and his customer was at the end of it. An hour later, when he was finished, he tried to get out but discovered that a brand new Porche was parked in his way, partially blocking the alley. He waited about an hour and when his patience ran out, he called the police. The officer came and ran the license plates on his computer only to find out that there was no record on file. He instructed the driver to "run it over"! He told the driver that he would be obstructing traffic if he didn't run it over and not to worry about getting in trouble because he would never tell. So, the driver sized it up, squeezed his tractor around it and drove over it with his trailer tires, which totally flattened the hood of the Porche!


I saw it with my own eyes in Chicago once too. There was a truck trying to make a right turn on a busy corner. A car was parked in the bus stop so close to the corner that the driver would have hit it. He pulled his trailer tires right up to the hood of the parked car and stopped. He `indicated to the cop that this car was in his way and he would have to back up. To my amazement, the cop instructed him to drive over it, saying "he shouldn't be there anyway".
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nitestar
04-28-2005, 11:02 AM
I too have run over a few cars in my day but not in the form of an accident.
I used to deliver at Slingerland Drum in the windy City. It is off a one way street and you have to back down about 3/4 block to their dock. it is at an angle so you have to jack the cab a bit. no problem if someone else isn't del or picking up at one of the other business in the alley.

Well I was ready to leave and I couldn't get out and make my turn. A white buick was parked in the no parking from hear to corner area. He was there every day I was there but not so close to the alley. Usually about 1/2 of his car was accross the line. We usually took out some grass on the far side of the street on day slike that. Keeping in mind that was with a 40 footer.
I walked to each building and asked the receptionest to see who owned the white buick, tag number such and such. No luck this time.

I knew the beat cop. Got him over and we decided to fix the situation. He called his buddy and together we figured out a plan. They found out which building he worked at. They called and asked for it to be moved.. Nada.
So They guided me till the trailer is over the left rear corner, and then told me to shower down on it.
I was loaded and that old international 190 worked its self to get over the car. It took a few hard hits to get it started and made a lot of noise.
I ended up takin 1/2 the car out. Now as I was about to drop onto the windshield the owner came running out screaming and yelling and having a fit. In retrospect he looked like a monkey on a string .
He wanted me arrested and tried to hit me. The cops were very cool.
They told me to stay in the truck driver, we'll take care of this.

They asked for his ID, asked if this was his car. asked if this was the first time he parked there. He said yes to his car. said yes to parking there ( big lie)
They ran a check and found he had over 300 parking tickets for parking in the same location.
Needless to say they had him watch me finish his car and he was cuffed and hauled off.
I was very nervous for a long time. I felt that he would come after me or the company but I found out that cops put the fear in him.
For several months after that there was NO car anywhere near the corner .

Had a NY City COP put me over a VW that was parked by a fire hydrant near the corner. That was fun. A VW and in NYC. what a blast.
That was in the early 70's when I ran reefer from Denver to NYC 2nd morning delivery.
One of the many reasons I refuse to go to NYC today.
Been there done that, now a memory.

Bikerboy
04-28-2005, 01:49 PM
The only big city i have been too so far is Toronto Ontario. I got into the downtown by accident pulling a 53 ft van with a daycab. I had never even driven a car there before! And it was scary enough trying to get turned around to get back where i wanted to be. First i cam too a really tight right turn, just barely got around, ran onto the curb a bit with the trailer.

Then i come to a overpass, it was just barely high enough, but i made it under. Then i got onto a dead end street somehow! Going the wrong directuion. But luckily there was just enough room to get the truck wiggled around and pointed back out. I was just glad i didn't have a sleeper that day, i never would have got turned around.
Now that i have done it once, i think next time should go better.

i don't know if trucks are even allowed in the downtown, cuz i was the only truck downthere. I was hoping to find a cop to help me, cuz i was freaking out, but i never saw any. I was glad i had a really good city map that day, it had every street on it, and i had someone else with me to read the map.

What a trip! Thats why i want to pull end dumps or tanks, not as much hassles around low bridge and tight corners.

daytrader
05-10-2005, 07:40 AM
I'd rather go to New York City then Chicago anyday. The extra pays is a perk as well.

Capt._Chaos
05-10-2005, 08:06 AM
New York City is not too bad as long as you have accurate, detailed directions to where you're going, and make it to your delivery point before 5 AM.

It's always best to call your customer and get detailed directions wherever you go, as getting them over the CB is NOT a good idea these days. Mapquest isn't always accurate either!

Maverick
05-10-2005, 10:38 AM
"Capt. Chaos" hit the nail on the head. Have good directions, study your map, get in before 5am., actually around 3am is better.
We all know that niether New York or Chicago are much fun to deal with so if you must go then I say, "be prepared", know your directions well, try to get in and get out on off peak hours, have some food or snacks and something to drink close at hand incase you get stuck in the dreaded traffic jams, while hoping for the best anticipate the worst, and above all do what ever you need to do to keep a good attitude so your not banging on the steering wheel while cuss'n and fuss'n and try'n to raise your BP so high that you have a stroke or heart attack. :cheers:

Big_Dave
05-10-2005, 10:42 AM
I'd rather drive in Los Angeles than Minneapolis, Atlanta, Chicago or New York. :yikes: :wow:

Foxfire
05-10-2005, 11:54 AM
I'll go to Chicago any day of the week. I just hate having to go thru Illinois to get there. NYC, on the other hand is a place I have no love for. At the age of 19 I was in the city and got mugged in Central Park and left for dead with a knife sticking out of my back. They don't make enuff money for me to go back to the city.

Chiefwhatdahey
05-10-2005, 12:08 PM
The only big city i have been too so far is Toronto Ontario. I got into the downtown by accident pulling a 53 ft van with a daycab. I had never even driven a car there before! And it was scary enough trying to get turned around to get back where i wanted to be. First i cam too a really tight right turn, just barely got around, ran onto the curb a bit with the trailer.

Then i come to a overpass, it was just barely high enough, but i made it under. Then i got onto a dead end street somehow! Going the wrong directuion. But luckily there was just enough room to get the truck wiggled around and pointed back out. I was just glad i didn't have a sleeper that day, i never would have got turned around.
Now that i have done it once, i think next time should go better.

i don't know if trucks are even allowed in the downtown, cuz i was the only truck downthere. I was hoping to find a cop to help me, cuz i was freaking out, but i never saw any. I was glad i had a really good city map that day, it had every street on it, and i had someone else with me to read the map.

What a trip! Thats why i want to pull end dumps or tanks, not as much hassles around low bridge and tight corners.

I wound up in Toronto on halloween, I couldn't find one sober person in that city that night that could give me directions I found it the next morning after a cop gave me directions and told me not to park there at night as I would surely get a ticket. My delivery was in the old part of town (road tractor w/ 48 reefer) I had to climb a sidewalk to back down the alley it took several attempts before I got wiggled in to unload. The looks on the ladies faces in the salon where I was on the sidewalk was priceless, every time I pulled onto the sidewalk they would get up and head for the back of the shop.

daytrader
05-10-2005, 12:59 PM
I'd take upper Manhatten at rush hour over Chicago at 2am. Long Island any time or day of the week.

White Dog
05-12-2005, 01:29 PM
I received an email from a driver who told the following story as his "New York Nightmare". He said that he had to back into an alley, all the way to the end, which was a long city block in, to get to the dock that he needed. There was only one way into the alley, it was a dead-end and his customer was at the end of it. An hour later, when he was finished, he tried to get out but discovered that a brand new Porche was parked in his way, partially blocking the alley. He waited about an hour and when his patience ran out, he called the police. The officer came and ran the license plates on his computer only to find out that there was no record on file. He instructed the driver to "run it over"! He told the driver that he would be obstructing traffic if he didn't run it over and not to worry about getting in trouble because he would never tell. So, the driver sized it up, squeezed his tractor around it and drove over it with his trailer tires, which totally flattened the hood of the Porche!


I saw it with my own eyes in Chicago once too. There was a truck trying to make a right turn on a busy corner. A car was parked in the bus stop so close to the corner that the driver would have hit it. He pulled his trailer tires right up to the hood of the parked car and stopped. He `indicated to the cop that this car was in his way and he would have to back up. To my amazement, the cop instructed him to drive over it, saying "he shouldn't be there anyway".
Whatever :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:


I'd take upper Manhatten at rush hour over Chicago at 2am.Whatever :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

Boy it's gett'n deep in here.

daytrader
05-12-2005, 03:03 PM
Do not knock it till you do it.

Rush hour in New york run 50-70 mph bumper to bumper to the toll briges.

Chicago, stopped to 5 mph for not reason on I 80/94

Chicago paus not extra, New York Cuty pays extra as do most boughes.

daytrader
05-12-2005, 03:07 PM
LA is a walk in the park, just like Atlanta unless you hit the 1.5 hours a day that atlanta has rush hour.

The only bad part of Atlanta is the going in on I 75 south before the loop at rush hour.

That is a pain in the azz. The rest is easy street.

I hear folks say St Louis is bad. I wander what they are smokin.

We can steal wheels off you car at 50 mph. There is a reason why the city cops (not the dot) do not pull many over. They do not want to be killed.

USAF_2T2
05-12-2005, 10:00 PM
I hear folks say St Louis is bad. I wander what they are smokin.

If you can't navigate around St. Louis then you need to hang up the keys. :wtf: