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April 25th, 2005, 08:54
video (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7609741/)

That school should have called the parent after 15 minutes of not being able to calm the child. Instead they waited 30 minutes and then called the police! Ridiculous!!

Being the mother of a child who has been in the situation of 'throwing tantrums' in school, I know the basic rights and rules of how to handle this situation.
My son has a mental illness. However, we did know know his diagnosis until he was 8. Prior to that, we knew there was 'something wrong' with him.
When he started having a fit and couldn't calm down in 15 minutes, the school called me immediately. I either talked to him on the phone and calmed him down, or I went right to the school.
I was called to school at least 3 times a week. Not once were the police called.
This is simply not the way you handle this situation! :angry:

April 25th, 2005, 10:54
after the knocking out of the asst. prenecpal they should have one called the parent which they probable did them call the police and well like i said child in kenegarden or high school it is approperate for the child to be put in cuffs

Jimbo
April 25th, 2005, 15:31
If my son had acted the way that little brat did, handcuffs would be the least of his problems. When Dad got a hold of him, and saw the video of what he had done, well....let's just say he would have had a tough time sitting for about a week.

To my knowledge, the mother **WAS** called first, and after 30 minutes of her not showing up, the cops were called. I could be wrong, but that's how I heard the news story. This little brat should have gotten the ass-beating of her life, but instead gets restrained by handcuffs.

The ridiculous part is a bunch of people who have no idea what being a cop involves, second-guessing these trained professionals. It's kind of like a four-wheeler second-guessing why a truck couldn't stop in time to avoid an accident.

April 25th, 2005, 15:53
From what I understood from the news, the mother wasn't called till after the police were called in.... I may have heard that wrong, I admit.

I just see it from the point of view that this kid **could** have something wrong with her.

I agree, a good spanking couod be in order, if she was indeed just being a brat.

It's just that, having had my son go through so many days of this when he was that age, I tend to see that side of things first.
People aleays said he was a bad kid and a brat.... that he needed a spanking. (which he got when he was indeed being bad) But, I knew there was somethign causing him to act the way he did.... and I was right....

He is bipolar, has OCD, Separation anxiety, Social anxiety, Sensory Integration Disorder, General Anxiety and Depression. He is now on medication for this, and it's been 4 1/2 years since he was diagnosed. He is now very well behaved and can handle his moods much better. He's learned how to take control of his emotions and how to properly act on them.
Anyone who has ever met him has said he is one of the best behaved, most polite and loving kids they've ever met.

Jimbo
April 26th, 2005, 00:57
What kids need these days is for the doctors to stop giving fancy names for "disorders", that are simply excuses for the kids to be PUNKS.

Back in my day, out of a class of 300 kids, we had maybe 2 or 3 punks. Today, 90% of these kids I see walking around are PUNKS! Hmm...could it be that since the doctors have taken away the consequences of being a punk, there is no reason to be a good person? If a kid dresses like an idiot, with 4 inches of their underwear showing above their pants, throw the clothes out, and give them stuff to wear that they don't like. If they don't show respect to others, they should get none in return.

My 12 year old son was asked once to clean up his room, while I waited for him, before he came with me for the weekend. He made some wise comment to his mother, and rolled his eyes in his head. Did I call a doctor? Did I check him into a "study" to find out why he was defiant?

NO!

I hit him, and I mean I slammed him good. The look of shock on his face was amazing. He started to say something about me having no reason to hit him, but I cut him off. "If you think you're man enough to talk to your mother like that, you're man enough to get hit like that".

I told him that I didn't ever want to hear that trash coming out of him again, or he would get hit harder the next time. I demanded he respect his mother, even if she didn't demand it herself.

If kids today had parents, instead of adults trying to be their kid's"buddy"
maybe they would be better people. Maybe they would be out helping their parents out around the house, instead of sitting on their fat, lazy butts, playing a video game.

I could go on, but my head's ready to explode at this point.

P379XL
April 26th, 2005, 01:06
Maybe they would be out helping their parents out around the house, instead of sitting on their fat, lazy butts, playing a video game.

I could go on, but my head's ready to explode at this point.

Hmm...I sit on my fat lazy butt right here, lol. Luckily I help out too...

Hehe, back to the point. Beat em! I have gotten my fair share of hits, let them too.

April 26th, 2005, 07:58
Don't get me wrong Jimbo.... if one of my kids acts like that, my husband does the same thing, if I don't get to them first!

And, the one that is Bipolar has gotten it many times, he just couldn't seem to keep his mouth in check sometimes, even on his meds.
However, he has learned in the past year or so, to do so.

Our oldest is 14 and he's going through that 'teenage' thing... moody... moping around... never sure what he's thinking. Once in a while his emotions get ahead of him and he gets snappy with us. He's warned once. That is usally enough to put him in check. If it's not, then one of us puts him in check another way. ;)

The youngest is 6. She's been getting lippy of late also. She doesn't do it more than once!
She also feels the need to raise her voice to everyone when she is irritated or feels she isn't being heard. I simply told her that if she wants to be heard, she needs to speak in a normal voice, or no one will listen to her. She's working on that one..... besides she knows her butt can't handle the size of her mouth sometimes.

Jimbo
April 26th, 2005, 13:57
Angel, I wasn't talking about any one person, but rather the way I see society going. I was injured very severely back in October of 2003, and have just started to walk without crutches. It has been a long time recovering, and getting around to do the little things can be tough sometimes. When my 12 year old son comes to visit, I ask him to help me around the house with some things. I can do the things by myself, but it would take me 3 or 4 times as long without his help.

One day, a neighbor said they thought it was terrible that I had my son outside helping me sweep the driveway, when I only get to see him 2 or 3 days every other week. My head was going to come unscrewed! These people expect you to let your kids sit in the house, playing some mind-numbing video game, while mom or dad is outside working? This seem to be the way a lot of people see things.

I on the other hand, think that if my son is going to eat food, go see a movie with me, and use the electric in the house to watch TV, sweeping the driveway for 20 minutes isn't much to ask in return.

When I was a kid, my dad had a simple rule...."If you don't work, you don't eat" . This is the way it is in real life, so it prepared me for it. I thank my father every single day for the work ethic he drilled into me. I am trying to do the same for my son, and I hope he will thank me later in life.

ATCO
April 26th, 2005, 14:38
Hopefully he will Jimbo...
I know I didn't like the way I was treated as a child... Always working and helping my father... Who is a bit more on the lazy side himself, but what ever...

I didn't hardly ever have weekends to go play like normal kids, and I ended up growing (maturing) very fast...

I know life isn't all fun in games (Heck my childhood certainly wasn't), so I'm prepared to do my work to get by in life...

BTW, My parents follwed the same ideaoligy of when a kid gets out of line, treat em' to some Pine.

Anotherwords, I know what it feels like not to be able to sit down for a week... Not that I think I was ever bad, but regardless I have an utmost respect for people... I still say Sir and Ma'am... Far fetched for a Californian, eh?

Parents are not to be friends, they are to be Parents... Treat their kids right by disciplining them... They WILL appreciate it later in life when they can hold a job and help better our society.

The world needs more :bop: