Recording device

[Magnolia]

Here is the deal , we have a friend staying with us she is 28 yrs old and has a lot of mental problems, she is on a lot of meds for this. Anyway her dad who is a real butt head kicked her out end of Nov. , we let her move in with us for awhile. She has stayed with us before but it didn't work out just the way she is.
She was on the phone with her dad last night , I picked up the phone to make a phone call and he was telling her to have my son walk out to the street and he would kick his azz and shut his mouth for him.
This man has threatened me and my son before and I have told him before bring it on if you think you can kick my azz come over here and try. Of course he shut up when I told him that. But when I picked up the phone and heard him threaten my son , I had enough of him and his threats.
I called the police to make an official statement and have it on record that he has threatened me and my son. The police officer who came out, I know him from school he and another officer does the DARE program at the local schools and they come in once a week with the drug dogs to check out the lockers. The officer also know the man I was telling him about because he is known in the community as is his son and his daughter for mouthing off.
The officer told me he would call him and tell him I had made an official report and if he kept up making there threats they would press charges against him , and they would tell him and me that I can purchase something at Radio shack that can record what he says and use it against him. He said as long as I was on my phone and one party knew about the device its legal.
Have any of you heard of this thing or used it?
More then likely the problem will go away by the end of this week I am going to tell his daughter she needs to move out. She adds fuel to fire. Because if my son jokes around with her, or I do she runs to her dad and makes it look like we are being mean to her. I had a talk with her brother once and he said yeah my sister is good for playing people against one another.
My mom told me I should be scared of this guy cause she thinks he is dangerous but I refuse to be scared of him. I don't think it would ever come to that but I have what I need to protect me and my family and I will.

[Big_Dave]

Put her butt out the door and get a restraining order on both of them.

[Crystal Pistol]

we have a friend staying with us she is 28 yrs old and has a lot of mental problems, she is on a lot of meds for this. Anyway her dad who is a real butt head kicked her out end of Nov. , we let her move in with us for awhile. She has stayed with us before but it didn't work out just the way she is.

Mistake #1 was letting her move in the first time.

Mistake #2 was letting her move in a second time after lessons learned the first time.

I understand that you are trying to help other families, but I will not place my family at risk by allowing their problems across my doorstep (actually, I won't even allow them on the property with their problems).

The officer told me he would call him and tell him I had made an official report and if he kept up making there threats they would press charges against him , and they would tell him and me that I can purchase something at Radio shack that can record what he says and use it against him. He said as long as I was on my phone and one party knew about the device its legal.
Have any of you heard of this thing or used it?

Yes.

But .... if there is some reason that you doubt him, you should consult with your local jurisdiction's prosecutor's office.

[Flying Dutchman]

These 'bugging' devices are available at Radio Shack. Very simply, it connects the receiver of your telephone handset to a cassette recorder. This device will easily pick up your voice (and ambient noise), too - without having to be hooked up to your mouthpiece.

Call a local attorney, though, as these devices are not legal everywhere and other jurisdictions might require you to have a "beep" tone every four seconds to indicate the conversation is being recorded.

Remember Linda Tripp!!
:D

[Magnolia]

I kicked her out today, told her to get her stuff and move and do not call me again.
The girl has a good heart but she has so many mental problems and her dad is a real butt head, he abuses her in more ways then one.
I hate to see someone being abused but I have washed my hands of her.
You can't help somebody who is not willingly to help themself.
I am not the least bit scared of this man, he pulled up in front my house today, I stood out there looking at him and he wouldnt' say a word to me.
Maybe I should be weary of him , and I am not a big woman, but I don't let anybody push me around and I won't let him do it. The good thing is we live about 1 block form the local police dept, this is a small town and the police dept is located right behind the EZ mart.
We had a fire once in our garage the dryer caught on fire , when I called them they were here within minutes.
I think the problem just left and we won't have to deal with him and his threats. Althought I bet I get a phone call once the police contact them.
We shall see
Thanks everyone
Sonya

[Flying Dutchman]

I don't know what your laws & ordinances are in Oklahoma, but you should give them 'written notice' (with return receipt for proof) to stay off of your property. Keep a copy for your file and one for the local police/sheriff to keep.

If that doesn't work, contact a magistrate and take out a protective order (or whatever they call it where you live).


Flying Dutchman; hopes that you made the correct decision

[Big_Dave]

I don't know what your laws & ordinances are in Oklahoma, but you should give them 'written notice' (with return receipt for proof) to stay off of your property. Keep a copy for your file and one for the local police/sheriff to keep.

If that doesn't work, contact a magistrate and take out a protective order (or whatever they call it where you live).

I agree 100%!

CYA! ;)

[USAF_2T2]

As far as recording your phone conversations it is legal in the Great State of North Carolina as long as one person knows they are being recorded (you). If you have caller ID I would tape any conversation he has with you in the future. The letter is a good idea to, but a restraining order may need to come in play if he doesn't back off.
What a restraining order does is puts it on file with the local LEO's and gives you a backbone to stand with. A piece of paper telling him to leave you alone may work, but restraining orders are a legal binding agreement.

It is sad when you try to help people and they treat you like crap. Good Luck.

[scubadiver]

Each state has their own laws on recording phone calls. I would double check on what the Officer told you. This is in case the laws were changed on him. ;)

[William]

Restraining orders are good with rational people. Nut cases and very angry people don't have enough sense to obey them. An old saying I heard was that "a restraining order won't stop a bullet." Do take precautions no matter what.

Remember Linda Tripp!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Farmer_Joe]

And taunting them with "I dare you" is not a wise choice either.

[Magnolia]

And taunting them with "I dare you" is not a wise choice either.



Yes I know its not and I shouldn't have said it too him but this man has a reputation of making threats to women and to others just over the phone but will never confront you face to face.
I have never been the type to sit back and let somebody threaten me or push me around and roll over. Even when I should have just backed down.
My mom raised me to take up for myself and not let anybody especially a man push me around or hit on me.

The good thing is she has moved out , good news for us not for her because she has only been gone a couple days and already called me because her dad was being mean to her.
I told her sorry but its not my problem.
You can only do so much for somebody , maybe her payee will get her in a group home where she really needs to be.

[Farmer_Joe]

Yes I know Magnolia, it's a tough pill to swallow sometimes - to stand there in silence while someone verbally attacks/threatens you when you were meaning to be helpful or something happened unintentionally. It's always best to play it smart & cool and let the professionals diffuse the situation.

The alternative, if you try to take a stand for yourself, well who knows what the next level of crazy your accuser is capable of if he/she doesn't back off? You might be either on your way to the bright light in the sky (or below) or depleting your savings defending your innocence in court.

Any kind of an assault charge on your record and you'll never be able to leave the boundaries of your country for vacation and it could affect any future job prospects as well.

[Magnolia]

Yes I know Magnolia, it's a tough pill to swallow sometimes - to stand there in silence while someone verbally attacks/threatens you when you were meaning to be helpful or something happened unintentionally. It's always best to play it smart & cool and let the professionals diffuse the situation.

The alternative, if you try to take a stand for yourself, well who knows what the next level of crazy your accuser is capable of if he/she doesn't back off? You might be either on your way to the bright light in the sky (or below) or depleting your savings defending your innocence in court.

Any kind of an assault charge on your record and you'll never be able to leave the boundaries of your country for vacation and it could affect any future job prospects as well.


I have always had a problem with holding my tonuge......and believe it or not it has gotten better!
Because when I heard him threaten my son on the phone I held my tongue and did not say a thing to him. Which believe me was hard for me to do.
:wtf:

[tommy]

Hope this all works out Mags, nothing is worth disrupting your Family.....

[K C Brau]

Next time she calls crying her dad is being mean to her, tell her to "call the police."

In Texas, it was legal to record calls on your phone without the knowledge of the other party last I knew. This also was recommended to me by our sheriff's office when my daughters were younger. Even if it isn't legal, the recording will be available if the situation arises it is needed. The most that could happen would be it is not allowed in court. As long as you don't play it over the public airways, it doesn't seem there could be a case made for privacy issues.