Union Pensions

[saddletramp]

How do Unions defend pensions when most don't even have one?

Read the story here:
http://labornotes.org/archives/2006/04/articles/a.shtml

[tommy]

UPS lost your retirement with bad investments, unsecured and this is one of many reasons I do not like unions..


Save your own damn retirement and take care of yourself...

((NOT aimed at you Saddletramp)))), just my thoughts in a short of Unions, overpaid none working azzhats....

[Rooster]

Saddletramp
I sure enjoy that check deposited the first of every month, Thank You Jimmy Hoffa and the Teamsters Union because my employers sure wouldn't have paid it out of the goodness of there heart, and I worked 39 years for it, as for this other guy well I hope social security stay's afloat for him. and I have a little history lesson for people like him. If it had not been for unions in this country there would be no middle class of people ( which is disapearing fast ) you would have the Haves and the haves not like anyother Communist country.
Rooster

[tommy]

Rooster, who do you drive for??

SWIFT comes to mind, yea you got all the correct answers Bubba!!


If Union was so damn great, then why do you have to keep working ????

[Rooster]

Bonepacker
No Swift is geared more for folks like you sir,that don't like unions and like to be treated like a begger.I drove for P.I.E. for 15years and 24 years for a oil company driving a tanker.Then I retired and bought a chicken truck long nosed Pete, great dane spread axle reefer and have my own authority,running off the west coast to the mid west and back when I feel like it and the rate is right,if not I just stay home as you know I have a Pension,and as far as keeping working ITS A HOBBY NOW as my pension pays me what would be a good yearly income for someone living in the mid west,so you see its kinda like a motorhome to me except we get paid when we go. Thank You Teamsters !!!
Rooster

[saddletramp]

Bonepacker,

I just want to chime in here and ask you a question, and I am not trying to or will get into a pizz contest here.

In another forum, you made the comment "a fair days work for a fair days wage".

Do you know where that phrase was coined??


It came from back around the turn of the 20th century by a man named Samuel Gompers, who was one of the instrumental people in organizing workers who were being forced to work 14 to 18 hours a day, alot of without pay, just to keep a job.

Daniel J Tobin, who along with Gompers, led the effort to merge many different Team drivers unions to form the Teamsters as we know it today. Tobin led the Teamsters from 1907 to 1952.

One of the rallying points they worked towards and achieved eventually was the 8 hour work day and the weekend off for rest and family time.

From these men came the phrase "A Fair Days Work for a Fair Days Wage".

Thanks for hearing me out.

Saddletramp

[tommy]

I understand this post and no one ever forces me to work...


UNIONS ruined GM and the airlines and so many more..


I am just so NON Union, it is now starting to catch and ruin so many lives and companys..


My Opinion, thats all.. :)

[Capt._Chaos]

Bonepacker, I beg to differ with you here......................

I seriously doubt it was UNIONS that ruined anything- just greedy management who gave themselves obscenely high bonuses and then tried to blame the company's financial losses on the unions.

If it wasn't for unions and their presence benefitting both union- and non-union workers alike, any job we have now that isn't in upper management would be in "sweatshop" conditions like what is pretty commonplace overseas. Unions are responsible for us having a lot of things we take for granted (weekends, air-conditioned cabs with power steering, this list could go on). Unions give working-class Americans a voice that they would not have otherwise. Besides, if it wasn't for the presence of unions, our country would be even more flooded with illegal aliens than what it is now. ;)

I come from a family who believes in working hard for what we want, and getting a fair day's wage for what we do. My Grandfather was in a Union, and my Father is in a Union as well. As for me, I'm probably going to land a Union driving job myself at some point in my future and stick with it until retirement.

I don't agree with everything Unions do, and I won't argue that there's some Unionized employees who work like snails, but if you ever spent any time around some Unionized places (like U.P.S., for example), your general attitude about Unions would change- and QUICK! There's a LOT of Union people who work their @sses off to make the nice living they have, and at 63 years old, my Father is proud to be one of them. He literally runs circles around non-Union people working on the same construction job site that are not even 1/3 his age.

[tommy]

As for me, I'm probably going to land a Union driving job myself at some point in my future and stick with it until retirement.


now is the best time to do it, why are you waiting?

[Capt._Chaos]

As for me, I'm probably going to land a Union driving job myself at some point in my future and stick with it until retirement.


now is the best time to do it, why are you waiting?

Where I live, you have to wait until someone either dies or retires from a Union trucking job before the "door opens". Besides, there's a few things taking place that I haven't mentioned here (yet).

[tommy]

enjoy life when your young, become a Union leader and make the big bucks.. ;)

[saddletramp]

I am a union leader BP; Vice President of Teamsters Local 690 in Spokane. I don't make the "big bucks" you are talking about! Sure would like to know who does!!!

You can go to the government LM-2 reports and read the earnings of the Teamsters from Hoffa on down.

Sure would like to know where the millionares are!

You can read the LM-2's from my local too.

[tommy]

Sure would like to know where the millionares are!


In some guys pocket that sits at a desk and plays golf all day... :harhar: :harhar:

[saddletramp]

Or goes fishing all day right????? :harhar:

[tommy]

Or goes fishing all day right????? :harhar:



I heard UPS Employees got the Big Bucks.......... :D

[saddletramp]

we'll have to ask sweetsnuggler!

[tommy]

we'll have to ask sweetsnuggler!

she is to Rich to talk with us POOR people!! :harhar: :harhar:

[SweetSnuggler]

we'll have to ask sweetsnuggler!

she is to Rich to talk with us POOR people!! :harhar: :harhar:
Riiiiiiiiiiight!!!

While it is true that UPS employees do make a decent wage, the demands made on many of them tend to take a toll on their mental and definately physical well being. If someone wanted to get into that line of work, the only thing I can say is, the younger you are the better.

To begin with, all new hires are part time and the wait to become a full time delivery drivers is about 5-7 years, around here at least! But if you start when you are 18-20 years old, by the time you get to 50 years old, you can retire with a full pension and benefits. And then pursue another career if you want.

Besides the money, the benefits are worth their weight in gold!

[tommy]

Besides the money, the benefits are worth their weight in gold!

and your uniform matches your eyes!! :rofl: :rofl:

[SweetSnuggler]

Nah, them uniforms don't come in green, if'n I remember correctly!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[saddletramp]

they look green,

if you hve them "special" sunglasses on! :wicked:

[SweetSnuggler]

Which ones?? The rose colored ones?? :rofl: